Claire and I listen to enough podcasts so today we literally hit record and started a conversation sharing are thoughts during this COVID-19 pandemic.

We figured that given we’ve been working in the ‘wellbeing’ space for so long that by sharing our conversation we might be able to help at least on listener. This episode was straight off the cuff while sat at the dinner table (with no editing before publishing). Not particularly extraordinary, after all these are ‘unprecedented’ times.

Or ‘Strange Times’ – I find myself repeating in just about every other conversation. Its also an opportunity for Fear to take hold and the stress levels increase. This can lead us to believe we have no control. well..


  • we can take a few, slow deep breaths 
  • we can pause and be kind in the face of adversity
  • we can help someone – even with a smile or a kind word